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- Usenet Mac Digest Saturday, February 13, 1988 Volume 4 : Issue 23
-
- Today's Topics:
- Re: MacII Monitors Resolutions?
- Re: EtherTalk vs. LocalTalk on Mac II
- Re: DialogSelect question
- Re: Chinese,Japanese & Korean syste
- Idiotic Rumors
- Fractals...Jim Cathey where are you?!
- Font/DA Juggler vs. Suitcase-I own BOTH!
- Misc bugs in Finder or Moire, Macsbug
- DaynaFile vs Apple PC 5-1/4"
- vectors in QD
- TeXtures upgrade (was: TeXtures and LaserWriter 5.0)
- Trojan Horse? Sour grapes?
- Re: Suitcase versus Font/DA Juggler
- Video Controllers for PAL Monitors
- the multifinder and ramdisks?
- MacRISK has escaped
- Re: Smalltalk for the Mac SE?
- Re: Finder 6.0 in "Scourge of the Killer Icons"
- Apple HD Backup weirdness
- LW II NT Startup Page
- Apple System Software Available on Portal
- Rumor of new Apple video card & monitor
- LSC and RamSDOpen()
-
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- From: gillies@uiucdcsp.cs.uiuc.edu
- Subject: Re: MacII Monitors Resolutions?
- Date: 7 Feb 88 21:10:00 GMT
-
-
- SuperMac's latest advertisement shows 4 separate color monitors all
- being driven by the same spectrum display card. If you look closely at
- the AppleColor monitor, you may notice the display overscans at the
- right & bottom edges! In fact, it looks like the monitor only displays
- the top left corner of a 19" (1024*768) picture!
-
- This is sort of like the inverse of the problem Mac II programs have
- with Mac128 programs sticking in the upper left of the screen! Has
- anyone on the net *used* supermac's display with an Apple (or a
- multiscan) monitor? Are there any problems, like not being able to grab
- the trashcan because it's off the bottom-right corner of the screen?
-
- Another question: Stepping Out II, by Berkeley system design, has just
- been released. This program, which creates & manipulates a virtual
- desktop to enlarge the screen, now supports the Mac II. Has anyone
- tried it on a Mac II? Does it work well?
-
- Don Gillies {ihnp4!uiucdcs!gillies} U of Illinois
- {gillies@p.cs.uiuc.edu}
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: korn@apple.UUCP (Peter "Arrgh" Korn)
- Subject: Re: EtherTalk vs. LocalTalk on Mac II
- Date: 8 Feb 88 03:26:34 GMT
- Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, USA
-
- In article <2584@emory.uucp> phssra@emory.UUCP (Scott R. Anderson)
- wrote:
- >In article <11540122@hpsmtc1.HP.COM> dlw@hpsmtc1.HP.COM (David Williams) wrote:
-
- >>Hmmmm, I think what she means is that you can only have Ethertalk or LocalTalk
- >>active at any one time. The serial ports still function while ET is active,
- >>but they can not run Localtalk at the same time as ET is running.
- >
- >This is an unfortunate limitation! What if I want to print graphics or text
- >from my UNIX login screen to my LocalTalked LaserWriter? Or receive mail over
- >LocalTalk while logged in to UNIX? Or any number of other concurrent uses one
- >can imagine!
-
- It is, and then again, it isn't a limitaiton. The first question to ask
- is, how are you connected to your UNIX login screen? Are you running
- A/UX and have a macintosh process running under A/UX that you want to
- print from? Are you running MacTerminal (or some other like program)
- that you've connected via a serial line to a UNIX host? via an
- AppleTalk line to a UNIX host? via an EtherNet TCP/IP line to a UNIX
- host?
-
- Lets assume your under A/UX. Then you will *need* to get a card (AST
- currently makes one) that puts LocalTalk on the NuBus to do LocalTalk,
- because the way it's implemented under the Mac OS (and on the Mac II
- board) is via interrupts; and this would flail A/UX alive (interrupting
- the kernel simply isn't done you know). Alternately you could have an
- EtherTalk card (ours or Knetics or someone elses), and talk AppleTalk
- protocalls via that card. Then, somewhere on your network, you will have
- an EtherTalk to LocalTalk bridge (such as the one made by Knetics), and
- on the LocalTalk net (or subnet, if you will), you will put your
- LaserWriters and Mac Plus, Mac SE, etc. machines.
-
- Alternately, let's say that you are running under the Mac OS, and have a
- macintosh program that allows you to connect to a host machine (again,
- like MacTerminal). Then, your connection to that host is via that
- program; no LocalTalk necessarily involved. If you have a program that
- embeds your connection in AppleTalk packets, (Knetics has some stuff to
- do this, as well as one or two other companies I believe), then again
- you are still using that LocalTalk connection on the back of your Mac.
-
- Lastly, you could be talking TCP/IP on a NuBus board to your UNIX host
- (again, under the Mac OS), and talking LocalTalk out of the back of your
- MacII. And with a board that does both TCP/IP and EtherTalk (AppleTalk
- packets on Ethernet cabling) at the same time, you could do it all that
- way.
-
- If you want a UNIX box to print on a LaserWriter, that's fine. That
- UNIX box has to either be connected to that LaserWriter via the serial
- connection (which will effectively force all connections to that
- LaserWriter to go through the UNIX box; the LaserWriter cannot take jobs
- simultaneously from it's serial and it's LocalTalk connections), or that
- UNIX box can somehow be on LocalTalk or EtherNet talking AppleTalk
- protocalls like everyone else.
-
- Another neat approach would be to set up your UNIX box on EtherNet
- talking AppleTalk protocalls as an AFP file server (basically AppleShare
- with a UNIX-based host). Further, you could have that UNIX box also be
- serving the LaserWriter that it's connected to serially (it broadcasts
- packets over EtherNet in AppleTalk protocall saying that it's a
- LaserShare-type server, and it can take LaserWriter jobs; which it will
- then spool to the LaserWriter it's connected to serially). If I'm not
- mistaken, several Universities have done the former; I'm not sure if any
- of them have their AFP servers also acting as AppleTalk print spoolers;
- but again, there is nothing in the protocall to prevent this.
-
-
- The limitation is simply this: you cannot have more than one active
- physical AppleTalk connection under the Mac OS (and there are even
- not-so-kosher ways of getting around this; but don't do it!). There is
- nothing to stop you from having other connections of other sorts at the
- same time.
-
-
- Hope this clears things up some...
-
- Peter
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: hannon@clio.las.uiuc.edu
- Subject: Re: DialogSelect question
- Date: 7 Feb 88 16:40:00 GMT
-
-
- dubois@rhesus.primate.wisc.edu(Paul Dubois) writes in comp.sys.mac
-
- >Does DialogSelect set the port if the event is an activate for a dialog
- >window?
- According to my Inside Macintosh DA, DialogSelect will, on a an
- Activate or Update Event, set the dialog to the current port and handle
- the event for you.
- --
- +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+
- + | +
- + Leonard Rosenthol | USnail: 205 E. Healey #33 +
- + LazerWare, inc. | Champaign, Il 61820 +
- + GEnie: MACgician | +
- + ARPA: hannon@clio.las.uiuc.edu | Bitnet: 3FLOSDQ@UIUCNOSA.BITNET +
- + {ihnp4|convex|pur-ee}!uiucuxc!clio!hannon +
- +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+
- + Disclaimer #1: Since I own the company, I can say whatever I want, and +
- + not be responsible for it! +
- + +
- + Disclaimer #2: Anything I say may be construed as being under the +
- + jurisdiction of Disclaimer #1 +
- +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: hannon@clio.las.uiuc.edu
- Subject: Re: Chinese,Japanese & Korean syste
- Date: 7 Feb 88 17:08:00 GMT
-
-
- If you have LOTS of memory (I've only got 2 megs) it is possible to run
- many different scripts on your mac at the same time and switch between
- the while running. At one time, while I was giving a presentation about
- the Script Manager at a programmer's conference, I had the Hebrew,
- Arabic and Kanji Interfaces all installed on my HD at loaded up so that
- I could easily switch between the three with the click of a mouse. Now
- I am content (since I don't know enough Japanese to require the Kanji
- System (only enough to demonstrate it )) to have just the Hebrew and
- Arabic systems loaded.
- I am also fortunate to be beta testing a product called AASK, which as
- you may have heard is an INIT which allows you, at startup time, to
- choose which inits you want loaded and then continue that boot process.
- This way, I can at startup time each day(etc.) choose which languages I
- want available and then GO! It's GREAT!!
- --
- +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+
- + | +
- + Leonard Rosenthol | USnail: 205 E. Healey #33 +
- + LazerWare, inc. | Champaign, Il 61820 +
- + GEnie: MACgician | +
- + ARPA: hannon@clio.las.uiuc.edu | Bitnet: 3FLOSDQ@UIUCNOSA.BITNET +
- + {ihnp4|convex|pur-ee}!uiucuxc!clio!hannon +
- +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+
- + Disclaimer #1: Since I own the company, I can say whatever I want, and +
- + not be responsible for it! +
- + +
- + Disclaimer #2: Anything I say may be construed as being under the +
- + jurisdiction of Disclaimer #1 +
- +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: gillies@uiucdcsp.cs.uiuc.edu
- Subject: Idiotic Rumors
- Date: 7 Feb 88 23:50:00 GMT
-
-
- This month's MacUser contains the most idiotic paragraph in the rumor
- column. They state "Apple is working on a 68030 machine, which (so far)
- will include the 68881 FPU and 68851 MMU as standard equipment. The
- suprise is that the machine will have 4 slots and cost *less* than a Mac
- II!"
-
- The MacUser column is the most brain-damaged rumor column in the
- industry. They ALWAYS make up their rumors. What's more, they're too
- stupid to invent plausible rumors! Why would Apple put a 68851 PMMU in
- a 68030 macintosh, when the 68030 chip already has memory-mangement
- on-chip? Come on guys!
-
- Don Gillies {ihnp4!uiucdcs!gillies} U of Illinois
- {gillies@p.cs.uiuc.edu}
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: viking@iuvax.UUCP (Jon W. Backstrom)
- Subject: Fractals...Jim Cathey where are you?!
- Date: 8 Feb 88 12:04:22 GMT
- Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington, IN
-
- Back in July of 1985, Jim Cathey did a C version of the fractal
- landscape program written by Michiel van de Panne in BASIC and published
- in the July 1985 issue of Creative Computing.
-
- Jim's program is called "Fractal Contours" and was published as a public
- domain program on an EDUCOMP disk.
-
- The major enhancements that Jim added to the program were to recode it
- in C and to use "a CORDIC rotator instead of trig functions". I want to
- talk with Jim about his program....where is he?!
-
- Alternately, does anyone know anything about "CORDIC rotators"? I'd
- like to see the source to his modification of Michiel's program. The
- algorithm used was based on one developed by LucasFilm Ltd. and
- published in the Sept. '84 Scientific American.
-
- Any help is greatly appreciated.....Jim?
-
- --
- Jon Backstrom "Yah sure...we gonna have fun, you bet!"
- Computer Science Department
- Indiana University ARPA: viking@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu
- Bloomington, IN 47405 UUCP: {pyramid,ihnp4,pur-ee,rutgers}!iuvax!viking
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: hunt@rsts32.dec.com (Phil Hunt)
- Subject: Font/DA Juggler vs. Suitcase-I own BOTH!
- Date: 8 Feb 88 15:43:50 GMT
- Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
-
- I own both FONT/DA Juggler Plus and Suitcase. From my experience,
- Suitcase is more invisible to use, but once up, both function about the
- same. Suitcase opens certain named files found in the system (Boot)
- folder while Font/DA Juggler (FDAJ from now on...) allows you to
- specify files to be opened at startup from any mounted disk. Suicase
- allows only 10 files opened while FDAJ allows 12. Suitcase has a DA
- that allows viewing/execution of DA's in the opened files. FDAJ's DA
- item allows execution/viewing of DAs as well as Font display, FKEY
- display and execution and Sound resource files, where you can sample the
- sound.
-
- FDAJ also comes with a program called Font resolver that allows you to
- specify up to 12 files and resolves the Font ID numbers in these files
- to be unique. You can also specify files you want checked in the group
- but NOT modified. It also uses, but does not modify the FONTs in
- SYSTEM.
-
- FDAJ comes up at startup (INIT time) with a multicolor ICON!! showing
- it has loaded. FDAJ also comes with a files of PD fonts,DA,FKEYs and
- Sounds. There are 50 PD DAs there. The distribution disk has 1k free,
- 790+_K in use, so it is a hefty distribution.
-
- Suitcase allows a user to open othere files in the System folder by
- patching the program with a well-documented modification technique. I
- don't know if FDAJ can be modified in this manner, and I haven't tried
- this, but the FDAJ docs imply that ANY file may be made opened at
- startup implying any resource can be left openend automatically without
- patching.
-
- BTW, FDAJ plus V1.00 (Jan 10, 1988 version) works completely with
- Multifinder. I have not gotten the Suicase upgrade compatible with MF
- yet....
-
- Hope my 2 cents worth helps the group.
-
- Phil Hunt
-
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: ephraim@think.COM (ephraim vishniac)
- Subject: Misc bugs in Finder or Moire, Macsbug
- Date: 8 Feb 88 18:28:52 GMT
- Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge, MA
-
- More miscellaneous bugs I've found in recent software:
-
- When single-stepping in macsbug 5.5 using the T (trace) instruction, I
- inadvertently stepped onto a _Debugger trap. Formerly, you could step
- along quite some distance this way before macsbug became confused. With
- luck, you could notice your mistake before then and make a safe exit.
- Now, you get an instant bomb with ID 12. That's not nice.
-
- Using Finder 6.0 with the Moire CDEV installed, I dragged the entire
- contents of my hard disk onto another hard disk (quick and dirty test of
- a new driver on the second disk). The copy took a while, so Moire
- invaded the screen while it was in progress. I moved the mouse to get
- the screen back while the copy was still going on. The Finder windows
- (frames only) were redrawn immediately; not their contents. When the
- copy finished, the contents of the windows were redrawn, but not
- anything that was on the desktop. That is, the disk and trash icons
- were all missing. This does *not* happen if Moire comes on and goes off
- while the Finder is idle; only if the Finder is busy copying files. Is
- this a Finder bug (I think so) or a Moire bug?
- --
- Ephraim Vishniac ephraim@think.com
- Thinking Machines Corporation / 245 First Street / Cambridge, MA 02142-1214
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: wiechman@athos.rutgers.edu (Kevin Wiechmann)
- Subject: DaynaFile vs Apple PC 5-1/4"
- Date: 8 Feb 88 18:01:34 GMT
- Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
-
-
- I am interested in hearing from anyone that has experience in using the
- DaynaFile 5-1/4" 360K disk drive. I'd like to know if you are or aren't
- satisfied with it and why.
-
- I am setting up a Mac SE workstation and for various reasons wish to use
- disk to disk transfer in preference to AppleShare, TOPS, etc. Mainly
- because it will be transparent to the secretary already familiar with
- Word Perfect. The supervisor is already familiar with MacWrite and is
- more computer literate than his secretary.
-
- >From the documentation I have read or hardware I have seen demoed:
-
- DaynaFile is much more transparent to the user since the files are
- actually acessible from the Finder, unlike the Apple PC 5-1/4" which
- needs the Apple translator program to see the 5-1/4" disk. Too bad the
- conversion program isn't a DA :-(
-
- DaynaFile will convert to and from MacWrite to Word Perfect format with
- one conversion, unlike Apple PC 5-1/4"s conversion program (straight
- from the box) which converts first to DCA format which in turn is
- convertable using the Word Perfect conversion utility.
-
-
- Thanks in advance,
-
- Kevin
- --
- Kevin S. Wiechmann arpa: wiechman@rutgers.rutgers.edu
- Rutgers University
- Faculty of Arts and Sciences
- Dean's Office
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: bill@hao.ucar.edu (Bill Roberts)
- Subject: vectors in QD
- Date: 8 Feb 88 18:14:49 GMT
- Organization: High Altitude Obs./NCAR, Boulder, CO
-
- I'm trying to develop a routine to display a table of date representing
- vectors. I was wondering if QD has a call to draw a vector (i.e. a line
- segment of specified length with an arrow at the end of it). If QD
- doesn't support this can anyone suggest a quick and dirty way to do it?
-
- Thanks,
-
- --Bill
- --
- UUCP: {hplabs, seismo, nbires, noao}!hao!bill
- CSNET: bill@ncar.csnet
- ARPA: bill%ncar@CSNET-RELAY.ARPA
- INTERNET: bill@hao.ucar.edu
-
- "... the Eagle Wing palace of the Queen Chinee'"
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: moreno@CS.UCLA.EDU
- Subject: TeXtures upgrade (was: TeXtures and LaserWriter 5.0)
- Date: 8 Feb 88 17:54:28 GMT
- Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department
-
- I was surprised to received in the mail TeXtures v1.1 (or something
- similar), an upgrade which makes TeXtures become MultiFinder compatible,
- and it is supposed to fix the laserwriter incompatibility. It has some
- other enhancements, such as folders to load fonts, formats and files at
- startup from specific folders.
-
- Looks good!
-
- Jaime Moreno
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: viking@iuvax.UUCP (Jon W. Backstrom)
- Subject: Trojan Horse? Sour grapes?
- Date: 8 Feb 88 17:59:27 GMT
- Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington, IN
-
- I thought I had a curiosity...but now I'm worried. I have a few icons
- on my Mac II hard disk system that have become 'grapes'. When I showed
- this to someone, he thought he remembered this symptom as being one
- associated with a trojan horse or worm.
-
- Is this the case? Is there something out there that might be lurking in
- my files? Or can this phenomena be explained in some rational way?
-
- The icon looks like a cluster of grapes on it's side....anyone else seen
- this? Thanks for any and all help....sorry if this make me seem
- 'silly'.
-
- --
- Jon Backstrom "Yah sure...we gonna have fun, you bet!"
- Computer Science Department
- Indiana University ARPA: viking@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu
- Bloomington, IN 47405 UUCP: {pyramid,ihnp4,pur-ee,rutgers}!iuvax!viking
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: Ray_Ray_Davidson@cup.portal.com
- Subject: Re: Suitcase versus Font/DA Juggler
- Date: 8 Feb 88 00:45:18 GMT
- Organization: The Portal System (TM)
-
- I'm not sure if F/DA J can handle other resources, such as the INTL
- resource. I'm sure that a call to ALSoft would answer that question.
- (713 353-1510).
-
- I do know that Suitcase has one feature that F/DA J doesn't; it uses a
- proprietary algorithm to sort the available fonts alphabetically which
- works faster than Apple's Menu Manager. I don't know any details, so
- please don't ask I saw this info on CompuServe, and I have experienced
- it myself, since I own both products. I use F/DA J, though, the time
- savings is only in starting apps, and I generally don't change
- applications much. miniWriter is slow in coming up, though.
- --
- Ray Davidson
- CIS : 71121,572
- GENie : raydavidson
- UUCP : ...sun!cup.portal.com!ray_ray_davidson
- Snail Mail:
- 22422 Walnut Circle South, #A
- Cupertino CA 95014
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: rim@csadfa.oz (Bob McKay)
- Subject: Video Controllers for PAL Monitors
- Date: 8 Feb 88 04:15:48 GMT
- Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University College, UNSW, ADFA, Canberra, Australia
-
- We're looking for a video controller card for a MAC II usable with
- standard monitors. None seems to be available in Australia: are any
- available elsewhere? Intended use: our lecture theatres are fitted out
- with video projection systems; but we're mainly a MacIntosh shop, so
- we'd like to be able to marry the two. I realise we're going to lose on
- resolution and refresh rate, but this would be acceptable for the
- intended use, even if not ideal. Any ideas, anyone, or should we roll
- our own?
- Cheers
- --
- Bob McKay Phone ISD: +61 62 68 8169 STD: (062) 68 8169
- Dept. Computer Science ACSNET,CSNET: rim@csadfa.cs.adfa.oz
- Aust. Defence Force Academy UUCP: ...!uunet!munnari!csadfa.cs.adfa.oz!rim
- Canberra ACT 2600 AUSTRALIA ARPA: rim%csadfa.cs.adfa.oz@uunet.uu.net
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: j4p@psueclb.BITNET
- Subject: the multifinder and ramdisks?
- Date: 8 Feb 88 04:32:22 GMT
- Organization: Engineering Computer Lab, Pennsylvania State University
-
- I have recently upgraded to the multifinder and have encountered a
- problem. I always used a ramdisk (since i only have one drive and 4 meg
- of mem in my Mac +) to hold my system files as to avoid the endless disk
- swapping. But when i try the ramdisk under the multifinder, my system
- crashes. Does anyone know of a ramdisk that works with the multifinder?
- Thanks for you help.
-
-
- Andy (j4p@psuecla)
-
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: aje@nancy (Tone Engel)
- Subject: MacRISK has escaped
- Date: 8 Feb 88 16:20:21 GMT
- Organization: Brown University Computer Science Dept.
-
- Surprise! Surprise! MacRISK has escaped. Those responsible for posting
- it to the net should have exercised more restraint. It was not public
- domain.
-
- I have been negotiating with Parker Brothers and their Licensee Virgin
- Games for over a year about selling MacRISK. Virgin Games has finally
- decided they weren't interested. So the bad news is I won't be getting
- any richer. The good news is that you're all welcome to keep your
- ill-gotten copies.
-
- I am interested in hearing about compatibility problems etc. The
- existing version was never intended to be more than a demo. I'm
- surprised it runs under multi-finder and on the SE. It doesn't support
- color and the computer players are awful.
-
- Since I do have more important things to do (a thesis to write) I can't
- promise a new version anytime soon. I'm glad you all like it.
- --
- -Tone Engel
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
- CSnet: aje@cs.brown.edu BITNET: aje@browncs.BITNET
- ARPAnet: aje%cs.brown.edu@relay.cs.net Phone: (401) 863-1831
- UUCP: ...!{decvax,allegra,ihnp4}!brunix!aje Box 1910,Brown U.,Prov. RI,02912
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: jspear@afit-ab.arpa (Jon L. Spear)
- Subject: Re: Smalltalk for the Mac SE?
- Date: 9 Feb 88 04:57:27 GMT
- Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology; WPAFB, OH
-
- In article <2834@fluke.COM> jeff@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Stearns) writes:
- >Is there a Smalltalk which:
- > - exists now
- > - runs on the Macintosh SE
-
- >From APDAlog V3, N1, Jan88, page 30, Smalltalk-80(TM) v.0.4 runs on Mac
- plus, SE or II with at least 1MB RAM, hard disk recommended. It's based
- on an early version of the current Xerox (nee ParcPlace) product, but is
- currently unsupported. Rumor has it that Apple is working on a supported
- version, but who knows... You get 4 ds floppies and a 94 page manual for
- $75 + $1.13 shipping, but you must first join APDA ($20/yr,
- (206)251-6548).
-
- Xerox's spinoff ParcPlace Systems offers three versions of Smalltalk-80
- for the Mac, with support (if you are willing to pay for it). There are
- two versions for the Mac Plus or SE (but run on the II), a stripped down
- one for about $700, and a full developers package for $995. A version
- optimized for the Mac II is $1295. Too rich for me, but ParcPlace will
- tell you it is a bargain. If you are a Degree-Granting Educational
- Institution, you can get the latter two for $99.50 or $129.50. All
- require at least 2MB RAM. These are the definitive Smalltalk-80
- environments with essentially the same features as and compatibility
- with Smalltalk-80 for the Sun, Apollo, or HP workstations. I don't have
- their blurb in front of me, but I think they claimed to be able to use
- desk accessories and are even multifinder compatible. They are at
- (415)859-1000.
-
- I have no experience or connection with any of the above, but hope to
- have seen one or two of them in the next few months. Oh, there is also
- rumor that the Smalltalk/V people (with a popular Messy-DOS Smalltalk)
- may be working on a Mac version.
-
- - Jon Spear, jspear@afit-ab.arpa
-
- With computers we can make millions, and soon billions of mistakes each
- second.
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: andrew@ems.Ems.MN.ORG (Andrew C. Esh)
- Subject: Re: Finder 6.0 in "Scourge of the Killer Icons"
- Date: 8 Feb 88 19:41:19 GMT
- Organization: EMS/McGraw-Hill, Eden Pairie, MN
-
-
- The problem with the icons is not a new "bug" in Finder 6.0, it is a
- misuse of the mask by some developers. In Tech Note #147, last
- paragraph, Apple tells us that the icon mask should be just that, a
- "solid black copy of the icon, containing no holes." The problem comes
- with the new color environment on the Mac II, where the mask is needed
- to punch holes in what may be a color background. I have noticed bits
- of color hanging around inside some icons after they have been moved or
- uncovered. This is probably because the mask wasn't there to clean up
- first.
- While I'm up here on the soapbox ... RTFM seens to apply more to Mac
- developer's than most. Probably because the Mac depends on the
- developer to get things right, rather than have the user muddle through
- life in the command line lane. I'm reminded of the tourists in Florida
- who gather wherever there is a "Do not feed the Alligators" sign to feed
- the alligators. Sooner or later, one of them gets chomped. Pay
- attention, folks, not so you can troop along behind some BIG company's
- standards, but rather avoid the embarassment of getting your bits
- nibbled off as you explore the frontier. :-)
-
-
- --
- Andrew C. Esh DOMAIN: andrew@ems.MN.ORG APPLELINK: D0492
- EMS/McGraw-Hill UUCP: ihnp4!meccts!ems!andrew AT&T: (612) 829-8200
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: delaney@XN.LL.MIT.EDU (John Delaney)
- Subject: Apple HD Backup weirdness
- Date: 9 Feb 88 15:54:21 GMT
- Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory, Lexington, MA
-
- I am trying to figure out whether the weirdness I have recently
- encountered using the latest release of HD Backup is some quirk of my
- configuration (DAs, INITs, CDEVs) or a common bug. PLEASE: no flames
- that I should be using Fastback or DiskFit or something else. I just
- want something simple and cheap (it came with the system).
-
- I am running an SE with 1MB of memory and an HD20, absolutely
- vanilla-flavored Apple throughout. Since the new system software
- release, I have noticed when doing full backups that the estimate of
- sides needed is 2-4 sides too low and the 0-100% bar reachs 100% long
- before the backup is done (but consistent with the number of sides
- estimate). The number of disks used is distinctly higher than seems
- necessary for the number of bytes HD Backup says I need to back up. But
- then that number is lower than the number of bytes used by a good
- amount.
-
- Weird, eh? Comments anyone?
-
- John
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: faber@husc4.HARVARD.EDU (joseph faber)
- Subject: LW II NT Startup Page
- Date: 9 Feb 88 20:04:37 GMT
- Organization: Harvard Univ. Science Center
-
- Apple's new LaserWriter II is a beauty! However, its new compliment of
- ports, ADB, SCSI, and LocalTalk, do not allow the usual fix for getting
- rid of the usual Startup Page.
-
- As I understand it, the previous fix was (taken from a text file posted
- in 1986 to CompuServe): "Change setting on LaserWriter to 1200 baud.
- Connect a DB-9 to Mini-8 cable from a Mac Plus to the LaserWriter. Run
- a terminal program set to 1200 baud, 8 bits, 2 stop, no parity.
- Type: executive[cr]
- LW: PostScript(tm) Version 23.0
- Copyright(c)1984 Adobe Systems Incorporated.
- PS>
- Type: serverdict begin 0 exitserver statusdict begin false
- setdostartpage[cr]
- LW: %%[ exitserver: permanent state may be changed ]%%"
-
- Well, I assume the same dialogue with the Postscript driver is
- appropriate, the question is, how do you do it?
-
- Apple notes briefly in the owner's manual that the LaserWriter II NT
- will always print the startup page unless you have changed the
- Postscript setting.
-
- I would really appreciate any help on this.
-
- Joseph Faber
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: Phil_CW_Sih@cup.portal.com
- Subject: Apple System Software Available on Portal
- Date: 8 Feb 88 21:05:17 GMT
- Organization: The Portal System (TM)
-
- FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE - - -
- NEW MACINTOSH SIG ON PORTAL IS LOWEST COST WAY TO GET
- NEW APPLE SYSTEM SOFTWARE - Cupertino, Calif.,
- February 8, 1988 -- Portal Communications announced today that the
- Phoenix Macintosh SIG (special interest group) available on the Portal
- System(TM) now has available for downloading the new Apple Macintosh
- system software. Some of the programs available for downloading
- include:
-
- Clipboard Keyboard 3.2
- Color 3.2 Monitors 3.2
- DA Handler 1.0 Mouse 3.2
- Easy Access 1.0 MultiFinder 1.0
- Finder 6.0 Scrapbook 2.3
- General 3.2 Sound 3.2
- Key Layout 2.2 Startup Device 3.2
- System 4.2 - The Phoenix
- Macintosh SIG is independently run by two system operators (sysops), Bob
- Murrow and Mark Cookson. "I think Portal is going to be the fastest and
- lowest cost way Mac users can get this software. It's certainly going
- to be a lot less expensive than any of the other online services or even
- buying the disks from Apple," says Murrow. Phoenix also boasts a large
- collection of Hyperstacks, the "software" used by the new Apple
- Hypercard program. "We've probably got the largest collection of
- Hyperstacks in the country and because of the resources of the Portal
- System, Bob and I don't have to worry about running out of disk space,"
- said Cookson. Both sysops can be reached via electronic mail on Portal.
- - Portal Communications provides online communications service for
- companies, organizations, and individuals. The Portal System(TM) is an
- all-purpose online communications network which includes electronic mail
- , on-line conferences, matching, a type of introduction service, and
- computer meetings, a form of real-time computer party line. Typical
- applications include customer support, user group communications,
- electronic bulletin boards, advertising, and information distribution.
- Portal provides connections to many other networks including Usenet, an
- international conferencing network, and to UUCP, ARPA, BITNET and other
- mail networks. Portal may be reached by modem for information or online
- signup at 408/725-0561 (300/1200/2400 bps), or through the Telenet
- public data network (c portal or c portal,id,pw for pursuit users).
- Telephone inquires should be directed to 408/973-9111. -
- (30)
- --
- Portal Communications Company
- 19720 Auburn Drive
- Cupertino, CA 95014
- Contact:
- Phil Sih 408/973-9111 (voice)
- 408/725-0561 (data)
- phil_sih@cup.portal.com
- sun!portal!cup.portal.com!phil_sih
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: dplatt@coherent.uucp (Dave Platt)
- Subject: Rumor of new Apple video card & monitor
- Date: 10 Feb 88 00:01:21 GMT
- Organization: Coherent Thought Inc., Palo Alto CA
-
- The 2/8/88 issue of InfoWorld has an interesting rumor concerning a
- possible new video card and monitor for the Mac II allegedly being
- developed by Apple.
-
- Briefly: the monitor, code-named "Fred", is a 21" monochrome display
- supporting 256 levels of gray scale; includes tilt/swivel stand, flat
- tension mask for reduced glare, and comes in a "reduced-size case"
- (whatever that means in a 21" monitor). Resolution is reportedly 1280
- by 1024.
-
- The video card, code-named "Barney", features an on-board 68000
- processor which off-loads the graphics processing from the Mac II's CPU.
- [QuickDraw patches, anyone?].
-
- "The unit" is expected to run $1600-$1800; the article didn't say
- whether the price is for the monitor alone, card alone, or both. An
- Apple spokesperson declined to confirm or deny the reports, citing
- Apple's standard policy of not commenting on unannounced products.
- Apple has allegedly seeded samples of tthe monitor and card to some
- developers.
-
-
- --
-
- Dave Platt
- UUCP: ...!{ames,sun,uunet}!coherent!dplatt
- Internet: coherent!dplatt@ames.arpa, ...@sun.com, ...@uunet.uu.net
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: rs4u+@ANDREW.CMU.EDU (Richard Siegel)
- Subject: LSC and RamSDOpen()
- Date: 9 Feb 88 21:51:59 GMT
-
-
- The reason that RamSDOpen() is returning -98 when trying to open the
- printer port is probably because the printer port is configured for use
- with AppleTalk; consult the Serial Manager chapter of Inside Mac volume
- II for more details.
-
- There's a low-memory global called PortBUse, the bits in which tells you
- what port b's being used for...
-
- --Rich
- --
- ===================================================================
- Richard Siegel
- THINK Technologies, QA Technician (on leave)
-
- The opinions stated here do not represent the policies
- of THINK Technologies or of Carnegie-Mellon University.
-
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